tha5150 Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Terrible solution, the previous owner put in drain plugs on either side of the deck, drains out but right at waterline so unable to leave open. What options do I have to fix this with a scupper type solution? Something I do not need to worry if I get water in the boat, just drains out. Or wash down system that I want to get, I can not do it with the current setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamaskeet Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Pathfinder change the scupper design in 2001, and then again with the XL version. Unfortunately the original scupper design wasn’t very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HewesYourDaddy Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 15 hours ago, tha5150 said: Terrible solution, the previous owner put in drain plugs on either side of the deck, drains out but right at waterline so unable to leave open. What options do I have to fix this with a scupper type solution? Something I do not need to worry if I get water in the boat, just drains out. Or wash down system that I want to get, I can not do it with the current setup. I have to plug my drain holes on my 2001. It’s just the way it was designed. I’m not crazy about it, but I deal with it. My 98 Hewes had the same type and location of drains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 My 2001 PF2400 had those side hull drains....if two grown men were in back and both livewells full, water would be an inch deep ....once you move forward it drains out.... I did the same as HewesYour Daddy and put plugs in them in winter. I didn’t worry about it in the summer. My newer 2009 PF2200XL does not have any issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha5150 Posted March 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 Would drilling out the sides for a proper scupper be an option? a threw hull fitting, with scupper. or any other suggestions? if they were terrible, i would only assume that in 22 years, someone has fixed this problem. one side of mine is a plug, the other is a plug with pvc around it and thats "the side it goes on" cause it just fits. ***, terrible. want it done right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HewesYourDaddy Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 5 hours ago, tha5150 said: Would drilling out the sides for a proper scupper be an option? a threw hull fitting, with scupper. or any other suggestions? if they were terrible, i would only assume that in 22 years, someone has fixed this problem. one side of mine is a plug, the other is a plug with pvc around it and thats "the side it goes on" cause it just fits. ***, terrible. want it done right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smooth move Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 my 02 has the redesigned drains and if i have 2 people in the stern, our feet get wet. i plug em. pretty crappy deal from a top of the line boat, but it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha5150 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Thanks guys. what's even worse is how i have to store the boat in my yard is on a block so my bow is up high enough for me to wash it at the house. on the water is the same situation as everyone else. i guess it is what it is like your saying.. i need to figure out what size each side is and just get new plugs.. these are crap thats currently in place and like i mentioned before, there are two different sizes on each side. one plug is pushed into a short PVC pipe and the other is just the plug. very odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilemaker Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 a long time ago there was a post on the subject with a fix along this order. on the outside of the boat you install a flapper style fitting to slow the ingres of water but allow it to flow out. Then you place a large clam shell over the fitting with the point facing the bow and base towards the stern. basically it is sideways. this will create a venturri effect and help pull the water out while on plane. this will not eliminate water intrusion but help slow it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HewesYourDaddy Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 hours ago, tha5150 said: Thanks guys. what's even worse is how i have to store the boat in my yard is on a block so my bow is up high enough for me to wash it at the house. on the water is the same situation as everyone else. i guess it is what it is like your saying.. i need to figure out what size each side is and just get new plugs.. these are crap thats currently in place and like i mentioned before, there are two different sizes on each side. one plug is pushed into a short PVC pipe and the other is just the plug. very odd Do you have a picture of your drain holes? It almost sounds like yours were modified but the way you are describing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha5150 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 pictures here.. seems pretty stock to me though the issue may be that the previous owner didn't have the right size drain plug and found a pvc that fits and a smaller plug to make up the difference on one side. i do not have a picture of these, really doesn't matter. what i need to do from here is either measure the holes and hope they are the same size, get new plugs and be done. no washdown options, only drain out on plane. this ***! or find another way to resolve this issue. side note, yes i know i need to remove the bottom paint and it is driving me absolutely nuts. ive had it for a month and taking it out every chance i get so i haven't quite hit the "i can do without it for a few weeks" mark yet haha. i plan on sanding and repainting vs paying $1500 to strip and redo it all professionally. would rather spend the $100 right now and get it looking 1/2 way decent and deal with it later. also the stains in the back havent came out from all the pollen in the other photo.. suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilemaker Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 have any of you 99 pathy owners tried using a duckbill valve. if it works you can send a bottle of bourban for solving a life long problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Skif Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 I have a ‘99. Side drains. If I’m fishing alone or with another similarly weighted angler I don’t need the plugs. If the boat is unoccupied, I don’t need plugs either. If I do have water because of a loaded cooler , extra anglers, livewell, I use the plugs. The clamshells would interfere with the length of the duckbills in my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilemaker Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 what is the measurement from the inside of the liner to the outside of the hull. I know they used copper tubes press fitted like old transom plugs at one time. pictures from both ends would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HewesYourDaddy Posted April 11, 2021 Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 On 3/31/2021 at 10:55 AM, tha5150 said: 3 pictures here.. seems pretty stock to me though the issue may be that the previous owner didn't have the right size drain plug and found a pvc that fits and a smaller plug to make up the difference on one side. i do not have a picture of these, really doesn't matter. what i need to do from here is either measure the holes and hope they are the same size, get new plugs and be done. no washdown options, only drain out on plane. this ***! or find another way to resolve this issue. side note, yes i know i need to remove the bottom paint and it is driving me absolutely nuts. ive had it for a month and taking it out every chance i get so i haven't quite hit the "i can do without it for a few weeks" mark yet haha. i plan on sanding and repainting vs paying $1500 to strip and redo it all professionally. would rather spend the $100 right now and get it looking 1/2 way decent and deal with it later. also the stains in the back havent came out from all the pollen in the other photo.. suggestions? That's the way the boat came from the factory. Mine is set up the same way. You're limited in options. The best option is to use plugs all of the time until you need to actually pull the plugs to drain any water inside the boat. I keep mine plugged at all times unless I'm leaving the boat in the water overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted April 11, 2021 Report Share Posted April 11, 2021 On my RF 18 and MA17, I have to use the plugs when fishing...when at rest, without two anglers in the stern area it sits above the waterline. DC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha5150 Posted April 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 Thx guys, i just wish there was a better solution to drain and this obviously limits the ability to have a washdown onboard with more than 1 person on the boat and beached somewhere at an island or fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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