Geaux Time Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Hey Guys, My 90 2 stroke Yami is finally shot. Water continues to get in the inner/lower head from corrosion. Got a quote from a marine mechanic saying they could put a new head on it for around $4500. I'm guessing a new 90 Suzuki 4 stroke would be around 10k. If everything was working fine, I'd probably sell the boat (Hewes Bayfisher 16) and move up to a bay boat (family friendly). Now I'm in a bit of a pickle because the boat is not worth much without a working engine. Do any of you have experience with getting a new head unit? Is it worth it for me or should I just throw in the towel and take what I can get for hull, components, and trailer. Otherwise, the boat is in good shape. Thanks as always for the advice. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernWake Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Unlike many, that is a desirable hull and I think you could get something decent for without an engine. Many could be looking for one of these hulls to repower and don't want to pay for an engine they are only going to take off. If repaired I think you would loose more by turning around and selling after than just selling in its current state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I would not put a new motor on just to sell the boat. I would think that would be the way to loose the most amount of money on your boat. Five grand to get it going to sell it in the lower teens seems like your best move. I see for one for sale now with a 90 zuke that has been for sale for a while asking 17,000. Selling the boat and trailer with a bad motor will likely move quickly. I have not seen many lappys sold as projects. I would personally list it for sale as is and swing for the fences on the price. If you get a number you can live with let her fly. If not take the listing down and repair the motor or be looking for a used yammie 70 or 90. You can buy a used two stroke for the price of the power head you listed above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Plus 3 on the advice above. I was in exactly the same situation with my first MA. I decided to sell it, and right when I did so, I found that the engine was basically shot. I struggled with the same question, but found what the guys above said - somewhere out there is a potential buyer who has an engine, but doesn't have a boat. What you get for the hull will be more than you will get for the whole package including a new motor. For the buyer, they get an engine they personally choose, which means less risk. There are a surprising number of people out there who have, or have access, to an engine that just needs a boat. On the other hand, I had a buddy who put a new head on his engine and it lasted about a year. As old as your motor is, you are only replacing one headache, and there are others waiting for you. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Yep I would buy a newer used two stroke for the same money as fixing the one on the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee217 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I JUMPED on the opportunity when I saw my 1990 Hewes Redfisher for sale hull only! Gave me the opportunity to start from scratch and redo wiring etc. BUT... im sure you can find a good used 90 2 stroke for sale for much less than 4500 and Repower before sale or keep enjoying the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplec Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Never done it but had a friend who had his rebuilt (new power head basically) and it popped in about a year and mechanic redid it and it popped again maybe 2 years late. Then he re-powered with new and mentioned more than once he wished he would've just re-powered to begin with. He loves his hull though and keeping the boat was always his priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I bet you could not sell that 90 for 4500 bucks if it had a new power head on it.. They were great engines but they are old tech and most folks want 4 strokes. Where is the mechanic gonna find a new head for a Yamaha 90 2 stroke? I would sell as is and let the buyer decide if he wants to roll the dice on a rebuild. Price the boat accordingly and let her go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonV Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 My 90 2S had the same problem, however the leak was caused by corrosion at the top of the #3 cylinder where it met the head....the cylinder head was fine. If this is your problem you will have to try and find a "short block" and replace. It can not be welded and re-machined. These re-built short blocks are getting hard to find, I was lucky I found one about 20 miles from me and if I remember it was just at $1900. I think Capt. Troy is correct, the 90 2S gets terrible fuel economy and it's very old carbureted technology. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lap it Up Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Scour all the used sites. Those 85's and 90's pop up for sale all the time. Great engines and should be waaaay less then $4,500. Anyone buying your boat as a "project" will chew you down. Better to sell it with power, even if people say its "old tech". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Down here in FL the guys who have the 90 Yamaha 2 strokes love them. At this stage they are all old,and if not babied will die of corrosion as my 150 VMAX did. My 2006 90HP is living in Canada with my son and will last forever in fresh water.LOL I repowered my LT 150 with a 4 stroke Yamaha because I loved the boat,not because it was a good financial decision. Old engines need to go to the junk yard,fixing a 20yr old motor doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lap it Up Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, polliwog said: Old engines need to go to the junk yard OP... Let me know if you trash that junker! I much prefer them! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW Skif Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Detail it. Sell as is. People want that boat. Be reasonable in the price and patient. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux Time Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Thanks for input. I’ve learned a lot from you all over the years. I’m going to sell as is. The boat (other than motor) is in really good shape for a 21yr old boat. I’ve had some wonderful days on the water and caught lots of fish on her. I’ll put it on the MBG for sale forum and be patient. I’ll eventually look to get a Pathy so those Keys and scalloping trips are more enjoyable for the family. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradM Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Scott, I know you’re selling as in, however a forum member named Matt a Conrad, typically has a lot of used engines and parts lying around. Just a thought if you decided to breathe more life into your boat for a few more years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux Time Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Thank you Sir. I may touch base with him and see what he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRC Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 https://shop.hydrotecmarine.com/category.sc?categoryId=4 might as well grab some performance?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux Time Posted January 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I’m going to sell as is Guys. I love the boat and it’s great for solo or two person fishing but gets tight with wife and kids. If it were just me using it for fishing, I’d have no issue putting another motor on it. Those trim tabs make chop a breeze in the middle of the IRL. I’m going to put it on the for sale forum soon. Here are a couple teaser pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 She is a beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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