Hewes with F300!

[slyshon]

1 hour ago, Capt. Troy said:

Why is the boat so heavy?

 

Maybe I am remembering wrong but I believe the 21 MA was around 1300 lbs dry hull. Is this boat that much bigger than the MA?

Back to the live well. Pressurized wells have been around for a long time. They just require a little more plumbing and everyone I have seen is at the stern and every one leaked a little some where. Even through the latches.

With the width of the gunnels I never step up and down off the front deck to go to the bait well. I walk the gunnels. "Old abused knees and back"

I have a long handle dip net and don't even have to bend down.

 

When fishing customers I sit behind them and work out of the pit with them on the bow. That is why I don't use the front well.

Your memory, like mine Troy, has faded.  Your 21 is a lot heavier... 

Skip  

[whichwaysup]

2 minutes ago, slyshon said:

Your memory, like mine Troy, has faded.  Your 21 is a lot heavier... 

Skip  

ohhhhh thats good news.   Anyone know how much heavier the MA 21 is?  

 

All this MA comparison discussion makes me giddy . . .

[wthree3]

Dry weight 2395 with a vz250.

[captpn]

right or wrong , Troy has a good memory.

[jason p]

I don’t remember 250 HPDIs weighing 1000lbs? Somebody’s got some bogus numbers. 

[slyshon]

Different methods on weights back then, the 1300lb. # is just fiberglass parts, nothing more.  These days our published weights include the finished product, everything except fluids included.  

 

Skip

[hawg]

Skip,

Would $150,000 buy me that new Pathfinder 27?

[slyshon]

23 minutes ago, hawg said:

Skip,

Would $150,000 buy me that new Pathfinder 27?

Yes, maybe a bit more but not by much.  Most will price out between 150 and 160.

Skip

[Capt. Troy]

5 hours ago, slyshon said:

Different methods on weights back then, the 1300lb. # is just fiberglass parts, nothing more.  These days our published weights include the finished product, everything except fluids included.  

 

Skip

OK then, I ain't going nuts.

But, the add sold me twice. Good reply there Skip. Makes sense from the marketing side..

Thanks for the clarification as it makes potential buyers of the product when doing comparisons a little more knowledgeable. 

I seriously wrote this new boat off with the published weight comparing it to what I own.

 

I will also add that the trailer under the new Hewes will by law require brakes on all axles. It ain't coming in under 3K on weight on any trailer, dual or single axle.

 

I suspect at this point the new boat weighs wet very close to what I fished yesterday.🤔

 

 

[geeviam]

A couple more pics of the new Hewes RF 21 from Facebook, along with a copy of the 2008 Maverick MA specs.

[Capt. Troy]

All good with me and sounds about right. I know the cap of the last 21 MA is higher than the original, about an inch above the rub rail.

 

They did something to make her taller for some reason.

 

The new Hewes is a good looking sled.

[geeviam]

A few more pics of the new 2021 Hewes Redfisher 21 from Instagram (live wells and storage):

 

[TURN ME LOOSE]

Looks to float relatively shallow for its size. I'm impressed.

Any chance we can get a "build" option on the Hewes site? Maybe the Maverick site too? I don't understand why the Pathfinder site has it and the others don't.

[slyshon]

https://galleries.maverickboatgroup.com/Galleries/Hewes-Redfisher-21/i-RZnShmr/A

 

Skip

[slyshon]

Gitcha some of this...

	PERFORMANCE
RPM	MPH	GPH	MPG
1000	5.4	1.2	4.50
1500	7.5	2.1	3.57
2000	9.9	3.6	2.75
2500	19.9	4.9	4.06
3000	27.0	6.2	4.35
3500	33.4	8.3	4.02
4000	39.4	11.4	3.46
4500	44.2	15.7	2.82
5000	50.2	19.9	2.52
5500	55.1	24.8	2.22
6000	63.3	26.3	2.41
	ACCELERATON
TIME TO PLANE		3.32
0 ~ 20 MPH		4.58

[Capt. Troy]

Good numbers and they look familiar.🤔

[whichwaysup]

I like it.   Really hope these new boats get the demand they deserve.   I know you guys have a heavy Florida clientelle, but this boat is PERFECT for places like the Pamlico, Neuse, and many other river/estuaries in the mid Atlantic and upper Southeast.

[geeviam]

I've never had a F300 or VF250 to compare, but those fuel economy numbers look pretty good for a big block on a boat that size - don't they?  It's amazing how much lift the hull has on plane.  And it carries weight well - is balanced without stern squat at rest.  Even though it has a 15 degree deadrise, I'll bet it doesn't draft any more with the pad on the keel, than the smaller Redfishers and Mavericks MAs.

[geeviam]

I'd still like to see performance numbers with engine height fine tuned, a Bravo I FS prop, aired out.  Heck, I'd like to be the test pilot!

A Merc 4.6L V8 ProXS 300 with TorqueMaster gearcase would be fun to play with too, haha!

[geeviam]

On 5/22/2020 at 10:29 AM, whichwaysup said:

Skip, How much will the newly redesigned 18 redfisher with the MA hull cost?  😝

Rumor has it, the next model to come out will be a redesigned Redfisher 16

[quest4reds]

Anybody looking for a used RF18 for about $70-75K???   Please?

[gnarlydog]

Some tease photos of the "smaller" model on their Instagram.

 

[whichwaysup]

Dadgum it.   This could be really bad for my bank account.    

[whichwaysup]

You know, there's just not enough enthusiasm around the fact that there will soon be 2 and likely THREE MA/Redfisher models out there.     I think people just need to SEE one in their local area.   Geeviam and I are doing what we can to stoke the fires, but it sure would be easier if we could DEMONSTRATE the awesomeness in person.

Here's what I propose:

MBC sends me one of each model, and I'll take the NC/SC geography and stoke the fires.   It will be a sacrifice to spend so much time at the boat ramps and on the water generating excitement, but it is the least I can do.

Geeviam, aren't you in GA?   Would you mind take these three models off MBC's hands and stoking some excitment in the GA/NFL area?

I know, I know, you guys are all in awe at my selflessness and commitment to the brand, but, aw shucks, it's the least I can do.   I mean, as you know, I like the MA hull so much that I practically rebuilt mine and about broke myself, so it only seems right that I can help bring the new breed into the world.

[quest4reds]

32 minutes ago, whichwaysup said:

You know, there's just not enough enthusiasm around the fact that there will soon be 2 and likely THREE MA/Redfisher models out there.     I think people just need to SEE one in their local area.   Geeviam and I are doing what we can to stoke the fires, but it sure would be easier if we could DEMONSTRATE the awesomeness in person.

Here's what I propose:

MBC sends me one of each model, and I'll take the NC/SC geography and stoke the fires.   It will be a sacrifice to spend so much time at the boat ramps and on the water generating excitement, but it is the least I can do.

Geeviam, aren't you in GA?   Would you mind take these three models off MBC's hands and stoking some excitment in the GA/NFL area?

I know, I know, you guys are all in awe at my selflessness and commitment to the brand, but, aw shucks, it's the least I can do.   I mean, as you know, I like the MA hull so much that I practically rebuilt mine and about broke myself, so it only seems right that I can help bring the new breed into the world.

What a guy!  Your selflessness has inspired me to chip in.  Since you'll only be able to display one model at a time, I volunteer to help out by assisting in your endeavor by taking one of the other models out with you for a convoy of excitement generation.  We could also use this time to provide feedback to the MBG with possible tweaks and improvements so the models can evolve with the fisherman's needs.