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Why Type I ? Arent those the most basic vests? Would the IIs or IIIs offer more protection or comvort over longer periods and/or in rougher seas?

Here ya go for basics

http://takemefishing.org/boating/boat-responsibly/boat-safely/life-jackets-and-pfds/?gclid=CNTR3eTakMcCFYmPHwodXnIMBw

The type 1 is what my USCG requirement is for all of my vessels in all waters of the US. Inland and offshore. That includes my 21 MA.

The offshore boat requires lights on every PFD and they are all cl*** 1 with reflective tape and I also have a whistle on them.

FOR JUST ONE MORE TIME THEY ALSO HAVE MY BOATS FLORIDA REGISTRATION ON THEM. :)

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The registration on all "debris" is a great idea Capt T. Two great lessons i've learned from your posts in this thread. Thanks! Awesome thread. Actually, this has been discussed before but not easy to find. This should be considered one ot the "sticky" threads that stays available.

Correction... Favorite Topics!!!

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A type I vest will float an unconscious person face up. If you're in the water for an extended amount of time, this may help fatigue.

This is what applies to every charter boat being a technical polling skiff or a sport fish. The USCG must have some reasoning behind this CFR.

This does not apply to the recreational rules as they are different and some local and state municipalities have other requirements.

Applies to:

All UPVs.

Personal Flotation Devices (P

FD), i.e., Life Preservers

All UPVs must have at least one CG approved

TYPE I PFD

of a suitable size for each

person embarked.

46 CFR 25-25©.

Kapok and fibrous gl*** life preservers w

ithout plastic covered pad inserts are

unacceptable.

Commercial hybrid PFDs may be su

bstituted for life preservers if:

♦

It is worn when the UPV is underway and the intended wearer is not within an

enclosed space;

♦

It is used in accordance with the marked

conditions on the PFD and in the owner's

manual; and

♦

Labeled for use aboard

commercial vessels.

46 CFR 25.25(f), 45 CFR 160.077.

Each required life preserver

intended to be worn must

have approved Type I retro-

reflective material (often flexible ta

pe with an adhesive backing) with

at least 200 sq. cm

.

(31 sq. in.) of material on the front,

at least 200 sq. cm

. on the back, and, if reversible,

at

least 200 sq. cm

. on each reversible side. The material attached on each side must be

divided equally between the upper quadrants of

the side and as close as possible to the

shoulder area of the PFD.

46 CFR 25.25-15

Note:

Additional Type II or Type III PFDs

may be carried aboard a UPV,

however, they must be stowed separately and they may not be used to substitute

any Type I PFDs

that must be kept onboard (i.e

. one Type I for each person

In case you guys haven't noticed I'm a little ramped up over recent events. Please indulge me the opportunity to rant a little. :blush:

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Okay. So we are floating/bobbing in the water with our Type 1 on. We have our Epirb activated and we see signs of other craft in the water or the air. What is the best thing you can have to draw attention? I need to make some purchases so list items/brands you recommend.

Examples:

Strobe: ACR C-strobe with C-clip

Mirror: ACR Hot Shot Signal Mirror

Flares: ???

Locators: ???

Smoke: ???

etc…

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All of those will work, it just depends on the situation (day/night). Smoke/signal mirror are good for day and strobes/flares are good for night. A signal mirror is an easy thing to tie on a life jacket and will blind someone in a boat (or a helicopter in my case) from a long way.

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You covered it with the above.

If it's dark the strobe for sure.

Daytime the streamers mirrors and so on. I really like smoke. Lots of different colors on the water all the time. Not often do you see smoke on the water offshore. If you do, something needs attention.

If your modern day beacon is working they are probably going to be really close to ya to start with. The 121 MHZ is pinging their RDF and GPS is pretty darn accurate these days.

These questions are probably best answered by the guys like Nag and CG Ryan. It's what they do. My reply is to what makes me feel good. The eye and training from spotters on C 130 aircraft is an art in itself. The pattern, looking wing tip to the sea is not just riding around and staring at the ocean.

Like I have eluded to. If I ever have to float again it will look like a ship wreck with smoke, mirrors, debris, fire and all sorts of stuff.

EDIT CG Ryan beat me to it. :thumbup:

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I believe there is a requirement for some type of throw cushion/device for commercial or personal. Typically you see a throw/boat cushion or ring or horseshoe buoy? Which do you salt guys prefer?

What about a a Life Line/Throwable Rescue Bag? I have both the cushion and Bag on my boat. Didn't know of both were required or just the cushion. Don't think that a Bag can take place of the cushion?

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Hey guys I just wanted to let everyone know that ACR is currently doing a promotion for a free ditch bag (2272) which is a 112.00 value if you purchase a epirb. I know a vendor selling the 2844 cl*** II epirb for 395 shipped and you get the free ditch bag. Thats a really good deal and awesome piece of mind. This is the same setup I use. If you are interested shoot me a pm and ill give you the info.

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I believe there is a requirement for some type of throw cushion/device for commercial or personal. Typically you see a throw/boat cushion or ring or horseshoe buoy? Which do you salt guys prefer?

What about a a Life Line/Throwable Rescue Bag? I have both the cushion and Bag on my boat. Didn't know of both were required or just the cushion. Don't think that a Bag can take place of the cushion?

A Cushion is the preferred for the recreational side, it serves many purposes. ;)

I throw and must have a life ring with an attached rope. I have the round one with again my registration numbers written on it.

It's solid and throw-able.

If I'm disabled power wise the attached rope may make a difference to pull someone back in.

Mixed on this one. If the drift is taking you away from your PIW best to not tether and drag their flotation device away from them.

Floating rope attached to what ever is better than nothing. You fall out of a boat on the hook with current, best to deploy a flotation device that will leave as fast as your PIW.

NOW, for the get all of dumb azz moves.

I was filling a chum bag off the stern of my boat when I accidentally un hitched the bag from the cleat on the edge of the reef with a screaming current. The boat is anchored and I went in right on top of the bag for a quick retrieve.

No getting back to the boat and away I went.

I could not make it back. G***ed myself in the effort still holding the chum bag and headed east.

By the time they cranked up, retrieved the 400 feet of anchor line and spun around to get me I was just a dot on the horizon..

I really don't even have to make this stuff up to tell you guys how fast it can happen.

My crew didn't throw anything to me, they were too concerned about getting the hook up and coming to get me "or the chum bag". I sure wish they would have thrown me the ring as I was spent in minutes.

I lost my flip flops, sun gl*** and my breath in the matter of a few minutes and finally let go of the chum bag.

My final tip of the day.

I spent 5 hours on the big boat. Removed every life vest from their stored areas, the life ring and so on. 3 of my 10 cl*** 1 pfd's had non working strobes for a variety of reasons. That will be addressed tomorrow. I checked the straps and put one on just for a check.

Well, the belly strap needed an adjustment for mine, the straps and clips were tangled a bit from storage and I just thought about the fact of how cumbersome the cl*** 1 is or any of them to put on for that matter. I did this in the cabin tied to the dock. :blush: " don't try it in the water"

Having the right gear and being able to use it will most likely make the the difference between a recovery and a rescue

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Also, type IVs aren't just for you...I had a guy tell me once that he didn't need one because he was alone. I asked him what he was going to do when he watched an ejection and needed to throw something to a PIW... Also these things are required to be "immediately available" OR out and ready at a moments notice.

If you tie a line to it, tue polypropelyne. It's the kind that floats and easy to retrieve.

Definitely a good idea to don a PFD in the water. If you get strobe lights, put Velcro on your PFD or hat and the strobe. Keep it as high as possible.

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I think Troy was getting at this but make sure that your life jacket straps are stowed neatly and all the way loose. You dont want to have to don one in an emergency that was used last by your 7 year old nephew with its straps tightened down. Every second counts when the brown stuff hits the fan. Lots of good info in this post, I think it will make a lot of people spot check their safety gear.

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I like having a whistle and strobe on all six of my PFD's. have to check batteries from time to time. well worth the effort. I use a throwable cushion with rope attached.

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