B2TB Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Have a 2014 18 HPX - Have seen several discussions here about this topic so it appears to be a design issue. I can't take it anymore. Yesterday it took 1 hour to get 20 gallons. The tank is in the bow. See the picture. Occasionally if someone stands on the starboard side, it will fill quicker. I only fill the tank on the water . Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 The obvious question is have you sent a probe down the fill opening on the deck? The fill tube should be clear and the fuel should run very quickly. I fill my tank as fast as the fuel flows. 10 gallons in 3 or 4 minutes. Love to hear what the issue is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstone Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 I have a 23 HPS and it takes 10 to 15 minutes to get the last 10 gallons in. I very rarely even bother to top it off too much trouble just think of it as having a 53 gal tank instead of a 63. It seems the problem is the EPA requiring a carbon canister filter that builds up pressure and just keeps clicking off the nozzle. To save a little gas vapor you end up spilling gas on the ground or the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 This muist be a new thing, my old Hewes and Maverick has no such issue, back to the future?. Leave well enough alone. Pathetic !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 10:39 AM, B2TB said: Have seen several discussions here about this topic so it appears to be a design issue Right on. I'm pretty sure 2014 was the first year the mandatory carbon canister was installed on the overboard vent hose line of all models. There is supposed to be a flow surge protection valve between the tank and the carbon canister, to keep fuel from surging up the vent hose and saturating the carbon, thus clogging the ventilation. My 2017 RF 16 didn't have this protection, and fuel filled up the canister and was dripping out the overboard vent in my garage. Fuel is never supposed to reach the carbon canister and soak the pellets. If your large fuel fill hose is unobstructed and has no dip in it between the inlet and the tank, for fuel to lay in, you might want to remove the canister from the vent line as a test to see it it fixes the problem. A 5/8" brass male to male barb coupling, from the plumbing dept at Lowe's, with two SS hose clamps, could be installed in place of the carbon canister for the test. The problems went away in my case. Be careful! Make sure your work area is well ventilated and there is a fan blowing fresh air at you when you work on this. And of course, no sparks! Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I have the same issue on our “s” model. It fills easier when you start with 1/2 a tank of fuel. It is an a cute pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert3 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 My 2nd HPS takes forever to fill, my older one fills WFO. I Must find a slow pump. embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason p Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 I think my carbon canister would be in the same tool box drawer as my anti-siphon valve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Here is some info and pics on the aftermarket Perko "In-Hose" fuel flow surge protector that I installed on my RF 16 fuel tank vent line, when I "temporarily" removed the original carbon canister that was ruined by wet fuel saturation, for "testing" purposes. Afterward, no wet fuel could reach the canister, and did not spit or drip out of the overboard vent again, during fill-up, or even on bumpy, curvy country roads. I can fill the tank at any station with the fastest pumps, without delay. The Perko 0553 device is installed in the short piece of hose between the two 90 degree barbed elbows - it must be installed vertically. There was just enough space above the tank on my rig to do this, so not sure about the space on HPX models. You have to leave at least a 1/8" gap between the bottom of the Perko 0553 device and the top of the bottom elbow inside the hose to insure good air flow. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 15 hours ago, jason p said: I think my carbon canister would be in the same tool box drawer as my anti-siphon valve With all the crappy fuel these days....I've had nothing but problems with the anti-siphon valve. dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, geeviam said: Here is some info and pics on the aftermarket Perko "In-Hose" fuel flow surge protector that I installed on my RF 16 fuel tank vent line, when I "temporarily" removed the original carbon canister that was ruined by wet fuel saturation, for "testing" purposes. Afterward, no wet fuel could reach the canister, and did not spit or drip out of the overboard vent again, during fill-up, or even on bumpy, curvy country roads. I can fill the tank at any station with the fastest pumps, without delay. The Perko 0553 device is installed in the short piece of hose between the two 90 degree barbed elbows - it must be installed vertically. There was just enough space above the tank on my rig to do this, so not sure about the space on HPX models. You have to leave at least a 1/8" gap between the bottom of the Perko 0553 device and the top of the bottom elbow inside the hose to insure good air flow. Hope this helps. Ummmm - anyone else notice something here? Geeviam, I think you just took the top prize for "Most anal retentive bilge cleaner in the world" and you, sir, are my idol. I mean, come on, that thing is clean enough for surgery to be done on! There are a few hospitals out there that need your guidance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason p Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 12:23 PM, Wanaflatsfish said: With all the crappy fuel these days....I've had nothing but problems with the anti-siphon valve. dc I haven’t 😎. Who woulda thought, a stainless steel spring and ball inside an aluminum fitting with an open vent to a salt water/air environment. What could go wrong? ...and yeah, that compartment is ridiculous. That’s like a old fireman’s boat or something. I’ve never seen a reflection on top of a gas tank before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conocean Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 16 hours ago, jason p said: I’ve never seen a reflection on top of a gas tank before. That’s because you haven’t seen my tank. 😉 But I can’t compete with the blinding shine off that hatch gutter! 😎 My tank fills slow too. But not that slow. It takes me 10-12 mins to pump 20 gals while on the water. A little longer when filling up on my trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, conocean said: But I can’t compete with the blinding shine off that hatch gutter! Hahaha! Y'all can just keep on pokin' fun at my OCD boat care! She is my pride and joy, no doubt. But the truth is, I've put 96 hours on the boat in 2.5 seasons up here on the mountain lakes of SC and that shiny hatch gutter has never been waxed (the hull has). Living and fishing in the intense sun and salt water of South Florida and The Keys up until age 35, I remember well how much effort went into keeping a boat maintained and looking good. Compared to then, maintaining this boat and trailer is a piece of cake! This boat has always been kept in my garage and used only on clear freshwater lakes, since it was new. It sometimes doesn't even get washed for a few days after a trip to the lake. I just back in to the garage, unhitch it, and done! However, all things considered... I will gladly allow some salt spray and a rust spot here and there, to catch the tarpon, redfish, and snook I see in the photos shared on this forum. I miss that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Geeviam, didnt realize you were in SC, what part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, whichwaysup said: Geeviam, didnt realize you were in SC, what part? Greenville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 cool town. Spent many summers up on Lake Hartwell not too far down 85 from you. If you want to get the saltwater feel but no salt, make the trek over to the Roanoke River RIGHT NOW. Buddies are up there catching 50-100 striper in half a day. Google TarPam guide service for a taste of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeviam Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just looked at the website. Wow, Stripers on fly would be a blast! Great tip Gus! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clink Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 There is a member on here that had the same issue with his. Someone had dropped a gas can gas cap down the filler hose. He spent all the money changing the canister and a mechanic found it in a few seconds with a scope. May be worth the time to see if someone can check it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason p Posted March 7, 2019 Report Share Posted March 7, 2019 Wait, wait, wait...I have an idea that will solve all y’all’s problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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