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I do not know about running on a pathfinder. I do have a friend that bought a new zuke 140 last year for a key West 176. It does not preform very well on his boat. We have lifted the motor and ran a couple of different props. Low 40’s is about it and it just doesn’t feel good anywhere from getting on plane to wot. 

I am sure I will get beat up over this post as I know there is a lot of zuke love out there. I just was not impressed 

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They do have to be propped differently because of the gear ratio vs Yamaha. There is a 150 on 22 PF in St Simons, I’ve seen it for at least 6 years and he is always fishing.... Also starting to see me more Suzuki’s on crabber boats, which means they have good warranty and they are dependable......I’ve asked a few of them about cost....and that’s not a concern....it’s dependability.

 Now for speed vs rpm vs Yamaha.....I don’t have a clue.

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My brother in law is a master mechanic for Bombardier/ E-Tec and was around when Suzuki made the Johnson 4 strokes for about 2 years. He said they were quality engines, it was the parts that they killed you on, and he is a pickey SOB! Oh yeah, the lower units are notorious for being stolen, lower unit bolts undone and they drop right out, maybe they changed the design??? 

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Whole lot of Suzi's on boats back home in Alaska now- the full size range. Folks absolutely love them, but that's on the strength of them also being sold by the shop with the best maintenance in town. Yami's have fallen a little out of favor to the Suzi's, mostly because they lost their ace wrench twirler. To the Suzi shop. Honda's and Merc's are so scarce you feel like taking a picture when you see one. Because of rotten shops.  See the common denominator?

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This is nothing other than throwing in an educated guess, just for fun... you should really ask the Suzuki dealer or a prop expert like Funky Monkey for advice.  But if you definitely want a 4-blade, and it's possible to find a seller with a good return or trade-up/down policy, you could try the Solas Rubex HR4 13 x 19P model # 9453-130-19 with a Mercury Flo-Torq II hub kit model # 835283Q2.  That hub kit would also fit with a Mercury Spitfire X7 12.7 x 19P prop as well (a more expensive option, but a great prop).  If the 19 pitch doesn't spin up to the maximum RPM range, you could drop down to 17 pitch.  But I think the 19 pitch paired with the Suzuki 2.59:1 gear ratio is about right.  Call me a fool for posting prop advice on this forum, but please post the results if you happen to try it and it works.  🤓

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13 minutes ago, geeviam said:

This is nothing other than throwing in an educated guess, just for fun... you should really ask the Suzuki dealer or a prop expert like Funky Monkey for advice.  But if you definitely want a 4-blade, and it's possible to find one with a good return or trade-up/down policy, you could try the Solas Rubex HR4 13 x 19P model # 9453-130-19 with a Mercury Flo-Torq II hub kit model # 835283Q2.  That hub kit would also fit with a Mercury Spitfire X7 12.7 x 19P prop as well (a more expensive option, but a great prop).  If the 19 pitch doesn't spin up to the maximum RPM range, you could drop down to 17 pitch.  But I think the 19 pitch paired with the Suzuki 2.59:1 gear ratio is about right.  Call me a fool for posting prop advice on this forum, but please post the results if you happen to try it and it works.  🤓

 

Will do! Thanks for the info. Will research those units.  

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6 hours ago, geeviam said:

But I think the 19 pitch paired with the Suzuki 2.59:1 gear ratio is about right.

Actually, your PF 1900T is lighter than I thought, so a 21 pitch is not out of the question.  Again, best advice is to talk to someone who has already setup many Zukes.  Good luck!

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19 hours ago, HewesYourDaddy said:

It’s a 2014 with 200hrs

Ya, no problems there. Loved mine, it was a 04. Like said, call Marcus, he propped my boat too. I know the older zukes had low gear ratios compared to other manufacturers, pretty sure Zuke got more inline with the rest of the industry at some point.

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11 hours ago, HewesYourDaddy said:

Marcus is with Powertech?

 

Yes....he’s the owner.  He has an incredible history of props for Pathfinder / Maverick / Hewes boat’s and many more....he has helped me get the right prop for several of my Pathfinders and a Maverick and has been spot on every time. With my F250 installation on my 2400PF , we went through three props and then a re-cupping before finally getting the stern lift and rpm / mph ratio correct....but...Marcus and PowerTech stuck with it until we got it right. On my current PF 2200 with a F150.... I experimented with a few props before settling on the one I run now. Marcus is a straight shooter also...no BS and promises of some amazing expectations. 

there is a lot of talk about props and speed on this forum...I’m not saying PowerTech will be the fastest prop....because I actually lost 3 mph going to a 4 blade..but..the boat handles so much better and is very comfortable at cruising speed that I’m a believer. 

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13 minutes ago, fishmanjj said:

Yes....he’s the owner.  He has an incredible history of props for Pathfinder / Maverick / Hewes boat’s and many more....he has helped me get the right prop for several of my Pathfinders and a Maverick and has been spot on every time. With my F250 installation on my 2400PF , we went through three props and then a re-cupping before finally getting the stern lift and rpm / mph ratio correct....but...Marcus and PowerTech stuck with it until we got it right. On my current PF 2200 with a F150.... I experimented with a few props before settling on the one I run now. Marcus is a straight shooter also...no BS and promises of some amazing expectations. 

there is a lot of talk about props and speed on this forum...I’m not saying PowerTech will be the fastest prop....because I actually lost 3 mph going to a 4 blade..but..the boat handles so much better and is very comfortable at cruising speed that I’m a believer. 

The owner boy Marcus would be happy to hear that . 😀

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On 2/17/2019 at 8:01 AM, fishmanjj said:

Yes....he’s the owner.  He has an incredible history of props for Pathfinder / Maverick / Hewes boat’s and many more....he has helped me get the right prop for several of my Pathfinders and a Maverick and has been spot on every time. With my F250 installation on my 2400PF , we went through three props and then a re-cupping before finally getting the stern lift and rpm / mph ratio correct....but...Marcus and PowerTech stuck with it until we got it right. On my current PF 2200 with a F150.... I experimented with a few props before settling on the one I run now. Marcus is a straight shooter also...no BS and promises of some amazing expectations. 

there is a lot of talk about props and speed on this forum...I’m not saying PowerTech will be the fastest prop....because I actually lost 3 mph going to a 4 blade..but..the boat handles so much better and is very comfortable at cruising speed that I’m a believer. 

I didn’t know he was the owner. He helped me with a prop for my pathfinder. There were a lot of variables, and I was having many issues, but he nailed it on the first try. I didn’t know my boat could perform like it does now. I couldn’t be happier, dude knows his props and pathfinders.

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5 hours ago, General disarray said:

Buddy has a 175 on a 22v - He gets 54 with a 4 blade on it. I know you're looking at a 140 but that should give you some measure

 

 

Much larger displacement engine, but I'm hoping with the gear ratio in the 140, I can get good low end performance. I would be happy with similar performance to the 130 I just removed. I think it's all going to come down to propping.

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5 hours ago, HewesYourDaddy said:

Much larger displacement engine, but I'm hoping with the gear ratio in the 140, I can get good low end performance. I would be happy with similar performance to the 130 I just removed. I think it's all going to come down to propping.

How did you do with the 130? I had a 1900v for years that had a 115 Yamaha 2 stroke on it. It ran well with a PowerTech RXB4/17. I ran 46 with the prop fresh from the shop and 44 regularly. 

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