Capt. Troy Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Looking for the ones they used for the gas shocks for the bench seat and port front locker on the 21 MA. It is the curved one not the 90 degree type. They have rusted badly and I am trying to source stainless steel ones if I can find them. It's the bracket with the ball mount for the shock. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I bought some for my Pathfinder through a local Pathfinder dealer. He ordered them straight from Ray at MBG. Ray would know exactly what you need. They were cheaper than buying from another supplier. If MBG doesn't have them, then if you know the total length and compressed length, and pounds of pressure, you can order the Ameratool SS shocks straight from Maxum Hardware ( https://www.maxumhardware.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=75&osCsid=n0gg9ttip978n6ca57pm3p74dl), who are the distributors for Ameratool gas shocks. They will customize your shock to whatever pounds of pressure you want. My Pathfinder used 15", compressed to 9", and 30 lbs of pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Not looking for the shock. It's the bracket it mounts to. The original ones were painted mild steel and are falling apart. They are an oddball mount that is curved. Come on, Skip or Ray! I think I have found a regular steel one at an rv place. https://www.pellandent.com/Entry-Door-Gas-Spring-Mounting-Bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I am assuming it is a vintage 1995+ yr. My 1998 LT Hewes has the same issue which I will have to deal with soon. Anxious to see where they are available. My bracket is different from yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 I would still give Ray at MBG a call, and see if they still have those curved brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 5 hours ago, polliwog said: I am assuming it is a vintage 1995+ yr. My 1998 LT Hewes has the same issue which I will have to deal with soon. Anxious to see where they are available. My bracket is different from yours. This is on a 2010 MA. It's chicken poop to put Bass Pro Shops hardware on a boat like this. I rarely bash this brand. It was a mistake they made. I want to fix mine the right way. It is one of the few things I can complain about for the way I use my boat. I hope these complaints lead to continued success for the builder as they improve over time as they have. I don't bring sand to the beach nor should they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Try this. https://www.guden.com/ItemDisplay/Mounting-Hardware?FA1572=Stainless Steel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 The don't have and would have to make it.$$$$$$$$$ May have one made locally. See my pic of the one I found. Weird configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulligan Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 What is the thickness of the metal, how many do you need? I might have something laying around the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 You could make it yourself. Pickup piece of 3" angle aluminum, trace the shape on it and cut it out. File the edges down smooth, drill a hole for the ball stud. Ya its a bit of work, but possible. Might be able to get the metal here. https://www.alro.com/locations/location.aspx?loc=CI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNOTNOW Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 I copied this one to a piece of scrap aluminum angle cut with a jig saw and smoothed with a file and matched the hole location and got the shock end off of eBay in stainless no more rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 That's nice, exactly what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 11 hours ago, KNOTNOW said: I copied this one to a piece of scrap aluminum angle cut with a jig saw and smoothed with a file and matched the hole location and got the shock end off of eBay in stainless no more rust. Nice work there and I was leaning in that direction. Another forum member 'Capt PN" directed me to Attwood Marine. Did some digging on their site and found the part in Stainless Steel. That fab job above is nice work and smart. Thanks for the help guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Nice work ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Great find. I have looked for those SS "crescent" brackets before. Just for other members, here is the link to them. http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/product/hardware-sl48-right-hand-crescent-bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBear Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 If not stainless on even new boats, it sounds like a good mod sooner rather than later. Bookmarking this thread and the links. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 23 hours ago, BrownBear said: If not stainless on even new boats, it sounds like a good mod sooner rather than later. Bookmarking this thread and the links. Thanks! There are 3 of them on my 21 MA. They all were always bleeding rust stains into the hatches. One finally fell apart. It was a constant battle of removing sanding and painting them. 1 year goes by and back to rusting they would go. Yes, if you have them get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 8:25 AM, JEM said: Great find. I have looked for those SS "crescent" brackets before. Just for other members, here is the link to them. http://www.attwoodmarine.com/store/product/hardware-sl48-right-hand-crescent-bracket Update. This enough to tick someone off! Ordered these things 3 times now from Attwood distributors. Went through the entire billing process and shipping routine. Apparently they are top secret mounts and the closest I got through West Marine was they only come in packages of 100. Purchased them again yesterday from Back to Boating. Got a text later saying order can't be processed. WTH Attwood will not respond to my calls or emails. Guess I am going to fab my own. The saga continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemott Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Capt. Troy said: Update. This enough to tick someone off! Ordered these things 3 times now from Attwood distributors. Went through the entire billing process and shipping routine. Apparently they are top secret mounts and the closest I got through West Marine was they only come in packages of 100. Purchased them again yesterday from Back to Boating. Got a text later saying order can't be processed. WTH Attwood will not respond to my calls or emails. Guess I am going to fab my own. The saga continues. You probably have thought of this already however suggest you apply three coats of clear coat to your finished product. I clear coat all exposed metal as we live on a salt water marsh and it has really helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulligan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/attwood-boat-crescent-bracket-sl48p3r-1-right-hand-reverse-10mm Might be worth a call to see if they can get it in stainless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcathey Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just clearcoated one of the regular steel ones and put a new shock on mine......finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulligan Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Looking at the pictures above and you can’t find a ss bracket you can always get the normal 90 in ss and add a block like on other models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Do you have a part number or a measurement for those struts? I've been wanting to add them to my hatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, hurricane said: Do you have a part number or a measurement for those struts? I've been wanting to add them to my hatch. I was able to order the shocks through a Pathfinder dealer, working with Ray. They were also lower priced than other online sources. But you can order straight from Maxum Hardware, the distributor for Ameratool. They are the 750 series, with a length of 15", and a compressed length of 9". They have 30 lbs of pressure. Here is a link to the Maxum Hardware page. https://www.maxumhardware.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=75&osCsid=f4do58heifcg1r0s8gh6e6s130 I added those shocks to 4 of my hatches, and it was a great upgrade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted December 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 hours ago, mulligan said: Looking at the pictures above and you can’t find a ss bracket you can always get the normal 90 in ss and add a block like on other models. Won't work for the front hatch. No Lip like that to attach. Too far back on that hatch. It ain't the shock it's the mount. The link provided for the above is great for factory mounts. If you add them the stroke and length go by the mounting position. Most require the 30 lb psi shock to do the job. As an add it is rocket science for stroke and length and position for the mount. Hard to look in there when the hatch is closed to accommodate length and stroke. You miss and it will open but won't close. Compressed closure is critical for a add on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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