Headhunter Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 So, finally getting to taking care of the boats after getting the house trashed by Irma. The trailers get parked on the side of the house and ended up in about 18 inches of water from the storm. I got the trailer out for the Maverick and found one bearing full of water. Replaced it, serviced and detailed the boat and it's back in the water. The pathfinders trailer is another story. All of the wheels locked up from rusted pads, rotor and calipers. I finally got the wheels off and to turn a little but everything is caked in rust. I think my only choices are to replace everything or rebuild them. I only use the trailers a couple of times a year for service and go to the various OT and a couple of trips to the lagoon. So suggestions? Is it worth going stainless and will it solve this problem going forward or just *** it up? Thanks in advance for your guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linesider 159 Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 If you want to do it the right way, Id replace the leaf springs and go with stainless brakes. If you want to go all out, wouldn't be a bad time to switch to torsion axles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 If you are not towing very much....I would take the brake calipers off, disconnect the lines , etc. If the bearings and hubs are bad from sitting in salt water....you can buy replacement hubs / bearings etc from E Trailer and simply replace them with standard hubs. I personally have tried to maintain my trailer with brakes, and My trailer gets dunked almost every weekend...it was a loosing battle. I bought new hubs, etc with no brakes and have had no problems. I have a tandem axle trailer, so it would have been new rotors, brakes, etc X 4. Too much money for it to sit in salt water. Just make sure your truck has the stopping power to handle the weight. I also took the surge cylinder off the trailer tongue and replaced the large box with a standard 2" coupler , also from E Trailer. I know guys are going to chime in and say buy stainless rotors, calibers, etc....and that's a personal opinion. I have no problem towing my 22 Pathfinder on a dual torsion axle trailer with no brakes. That's my two cents worth... JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 My 2200 pathfinder does not have trailer brakes and I do not feel it pushing the truck at all. I would second the disconnect the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 What are you guys towing with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 2017 GMC 1500 crew cab 4 x 4. 5.3 V8.....no problem towing or stopping . We just recently returned from a trip to Islamorada last month....1200 miles round trip...no issues and most of the driving was on I-95. I repacked the bearings, took 2 spares and off we went....luckily, didn't have any problems. Most of my towing is local and only 5 or 10 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilemaker Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 State law varies. I think Florida might require them. Not worried about a ticket but if you are in an accident it might work against you if they are required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsnooker Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 In Florida anything over 3500 lb technically needs brakes. My first 22 Pathfinder trailer is just did brakes on the front axle. My second 22 trailer I didn’t do any brakes. Never had any problems stopping with a F150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 I tow with a full size tundra two wheel drive. My previous boat was a 19 pioneer and she was heavy and in a hard braking situation I could feel it. The pathfinder 2200 does not try to push my truck at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convertible13 Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 I have a MA 21. My previous trailer did what yours did. I had the brakes removed and never had a problem. I have an F-150 Fx4. I will say my new trailer has brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conocean Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 FL Hwy Patrol officer told me that any boat trailer with a load of 3,000lbs+ must be equipped with brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROZEN Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 4 hours ago, fishmanjj said: If you are not towing very much....I would take the brake calipers off, disconnect the lines , etc. If the bearings and hubs are bad from sitting in salt water....you can buy replacement hubs / bearings etc from E Trailer and simply replace them with standard hubs. I personally have tried to maintain my trailer with brakes, and My trailer gets dunked almost every weekend...it was a loosing battle. I bought new hubs, etc with no brakes and have had no problems. I have a tandem axle trailer, so it would have been new rotors, brakes, etc X 4. Too much money for it to sit in salt water. Just make sure your truck has the stopping power to handle the weight. I also took the surge cylinder off the trailer tongue and replaced the large box with a standard 2" coupler , also from E Trailer. I know guys are going to chime in and say buy stainless rotors, calibers, etc....and that's a personal opinion. I have no problem towing my 22 Pathfinder on a dual torsion axle trailer with no brakes. That's my two cents worth... JJ X3 or 4.........I converted to torsion axels, no brakes, welded the surge cylinder, and tow with 2WD, 400,000 mi Tahoe. I’m careful, leave plenty of stopping distance, and have not come close to a “dicey” situation. I do put some weight in the back of the Tahoe if I know I’ll be using a steep, slippery ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, conocean said: FL Hwy Patrol officer told me that any boat trailer with a load of 3,000lbs+ must be equipped with brakes. Yep......Like anything where you are out of compliance....you don't need a tandem with brakes in compliance with the law, until such time as you are in a major accident, where there could be a large legal action suit and you are found negligable. I ran a 22PF on a 5200 lb axel, the truck was fine and she stopped her fine....a F150.......but, I was always worried what if DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 The admiral cast her vote. Stainless all around. She doesn't want her pretty boat at risk! Or us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Wise choice. Admirals have good judgment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Stainless is a wise choice, but it looks like your springs are bad also. Since you decided on top of the line brakes, I' go for torsion axles and get rid of springs. Or another option, sell the trailer and rent one when you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Interesting thought on rental. I’ll investigat that and get rid of this pia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason p Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 On June 19, 2018 at 2:41 PM, conocean said: FL Hwy Patrol officer told me that any boat trailer with a load of 3,000lbs+ must be equipped with brakes. This is the law, not 3500... and as Conocean will probably tell you this is also what your insurance company (and maybe more importantly the person you may hit) insurance company goes by in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernieNC Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, jason p said: This is the law, not 3500... and as Conocean will probably tell you this is also what your insurance company (and maybe more importantly the person you may hit) insurance company goes by in Florida. 4000 in NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Georgia is just now getting around to requiring lights, ( at least one light ) so we are a long ways away form weight regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernieNC Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 No lights required (in NC) if 4000 or under and you can see the ones on the tow vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I think the law in Georgia is if the GVWR of the trailer is over 3000 lbs, each wheel must have brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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