Nick2400TRS Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I have 4 batteries in my 2400TRS, 3 interstate deep cycle trolling and 1 Interstate starting for the house. Everything is connected to the starting battery, Id like to replace it with an AGM group 31 that can handle high drain of multiple live wells and my stereo amp. I’m debating between Deka Intimidator, batteries plus X2Power(rebadged Northstar), and odyssey 2150. I’d like real world experience and feedback with these batteries. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Troy Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Duracell at Sams Club Dual purpose AGM Don't run the stereo when your fishing and running the live wells or I will give you some more bad info. If your 36 volt on the TM I would have 5 batteries in that boat. 2 would be for all accessories and start. Without proper switching 1 battery for the house and start as you want to run will become a dead battery sooner or later. I run 4 on my 21 MA 2 for TM and 2 in parallel for the house and start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.N Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Capt. Troy said: Duracell at Sams Club Dual purpose AGM Don't run the stereo when your fishing and running the live wells or I will give you some more bad info. If your 36 volt on the TM I would have 5 batteries in that boat. 2 would be for all accessories and start. Without proper switching 1 battery for the house and start as you want to run will become a dead battery sooner or later. I run 4 on my 21 MA 2 for TM and 2 in parallel for the house and start. I have 5 batteries in my hewes 21 redfisher. 3 for the 36v trolling motor and 2 in parallel for the motor and house. It's overkill, but it beats getting stranded down in the 10k islands. I didn't even notice any difference in my top speeds vs when I had a single battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I couldn’t agree more with Capt. Troy. I have 2 AGM’s for a 24v troller on a 22 Pathfinder. I have 2 more batteries for house and starting. A day of fishing, while running electronics, amped stereo, and one live well, WILL deplete a fully charged house battery. Many a day I have had to switch to the 2nd battery to crank the big motor to head home. If you prefer not to add a 5th battery, you should strongly consider keeping a good set of jumper cables onboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2400TRS Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I have the ability to switch to one of the trolling batts to crank the big motor. But if I’m running the trolling motor also I wonder if it will be too low to crank my F300? I’m going to see if I can fit a 5th batt in my console, it’ll be tight. Assuming I add a 2nd house battery why did you choose the Deka/Duracell instead of the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 That’s great. If you can switch to both (the house/cranking battery and a trolling motor battery), that should be enough juice to crank the big motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2400TRS Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Batteries plus Duracell warranty is 30 months, Sams is 18. Plus I’m not a Sams member and it’s a lot farther away than batt plus. If I go deka I’ll get it from batt plus. im still debating if the Northstar or odyssey are worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2400TRS Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 No room for a 5th battery unless I cover the access plate which I don’t want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Im a fan of the Sams Duracells also, but if they are not easily available to you, can't go wrong with a Deka batt. As far as the 5th batt, I agree if you run the stereo and livewell you may have an issue. And I agree fishing in the 10k island I would have 5 batts. However, if you can remember to switch to your TM batt/#2 when you setup for a long time running the stereo and livewells, and you fish a populated area like Tampa, I think 4 is fine. The risk of a low battery is there, but for me in Tampa there is always help if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilemaker Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Not to derail topic but when you need to use the second back up battery to start the engine do not use the both setting. Use the 2 setting. If you go to both then the weak 1starting battery will pull down the amperage of the stronger #2 battery. Once started you can switch to both for charging but do not go through the off setting. Go from #2 to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 One other thing that can help. The aux charging circuit, if its not wired up, wire it up to the #2 battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, smilemaker said: Not to derail topic but when you need to use the second back up battery to start the engine do not use the both setting. Use the 2 setting. If you go to both then the weak 1starting battery will pull down the amperage of the stronger #2 battery. Once started you can switch to both for charging but do not go through the off setting. Go from #2 to both. When I mentioned switching to "both" to crank the engine, I should have mentioned that I was talking about a situation where neither battery was by itself strong enough to crank the big motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackacre Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I also have a Sams Club Group 31 Duracell AGM as my starting/house battery. Had it for a year with no complaints. Priced very reasonable compared to Odyssey or Optima. I too have a battery switch to use one of my trolling motor batteries when I select "ALL". If you are still worried about only have 1 starting/house battery, then carry a lithium ion jump starter. Cheap insurance in a light weight package. Having 5 batteries is probably over 300 Lbs. in battery weight. If you are concerned about draft that is a lot of extra weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG RYAN Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I have the same boat. I have three batteries under the rear seats in cases and two in the console, one for cranking and one for accessories. I run the Duracell agm from batteries plus and like it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradM Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm not sure if I have more or less footprint in my console (23 HPS) but the dealer rigged my batteries in line with the bow/boat. I measured it out, and changed them to run perpendicular to the boat; now a 5th battery will fit where the yellow circle is...even though it doesn't look like it in this picture. Can you realign the batteries to gain the room you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blewbyu Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Speaking of starting batts, my tech told me I need a 1000 CCA series 24 for my 02 Yanaha F115. The engine electronics requires it when moving slow especially the fuel pump and EFI. Any thoughts before I change out my Costco series 24 500 CCA batt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Thats way off from what the manual recommends. Google, 2002 yamaha f115 owners manual, look on page 10. Try this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj22MDh38jaAhWCwFkKHXS5Az4QFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yamaha-motor.com%2Fassets%2Fservice%2Fmanuals%2F1%2Flit-18626-07-13_1370.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1mO9QpW0cK512b2wqUsFSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lap it Up Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 hours ago, hurricane said: Thats way off from what the manual recommends. Google, 2002 yamaha f115 owners manual, look on page 10. Try this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj22MDh38jaAhWCwFkKHXS5Az4QFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yamaha-motor.com%2Fassets%2Fservice%2Fmanuals%2F1%2Flit-18626-07-13_1370.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1mO9QpW0cK512b2wqUsFSN Manual gives you minimum requirements. Anything above their minimum is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 8 hours ago, blewbyu said: Speaking of starting batts, my tech told me I need a 1000 CCA series 24 for my 02 Yanaha F115. The engine electronics requires it when moving slow especially the fuel pump and EFI. Any thoughts before I change out my Costco series 24 500 CCA batt? the yamidog pros at Boat Center recommend the same thing....it's the white DEKA. I used it as my primary battery and had it tied into a "trolling motor" set up..... no issues for many years.... I used it for both my 115 and 150. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabear Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 On April 20, 2018 at 7:26 AM, blewbyu said: Speaking of starting batts, my tech told me I need a 1000 CCA series 24 for my 02 Yanaha F115. The engine electronics requires it when moving slow especially the fuel pump and EFI. Any thoughts before I change out my Costco series 24 500 CCA batt? 19 hours ago, Wanaflatsfish said: the yamidog pros at Boat Center recommend the same thing....it's the white DEKA. I used it as my primary battery and had it tied into a "trolling motor" set up..... no issues for many years.... I used it for both my 115 and 150. DC Not easy to find a marine cranking group 24 battery with 1000 CCA . I have only found a couple that make a group 24 with 1000 CCA do you know what the part number of the group 24 cranking marine dekas with 1000 CCA than you guys are running ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2400TRS Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Forgot to add, when I was at Batteries Plus the guy told me the X2Powers have become so popular they never sit on the shelf more than a month. They sell very well in all sizes he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2400TRS Posted April 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 What’s the proper charging profile for these AGM’s? The promariner/protournament customer service guy today told me each AGM is different. He talked about different charging and different maintenance voltages the charger can produce. Any input would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/21/2018 at 11:14 AM, dabear said: Not easy to find a marine cranking group 24 battery with 1000 CCA . I have only found a couple that make a group 24 with 1000 CCA do you know what the part number of the group 24 cranking marine dekas with 1000 CCA than you guys are running ? Joe, it's the DEKA White Marine AGM....I had it on my RF 18 and my 22 Pathy prior to going with the series 31's when I went to 36V on the TM. dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nick2400TRS said: What’s the proper charging profile for these AGM’s? The promariner/protournament customer service guy today told me each AGM is different. He talked about different charging and different maintenance voltages the charger can produce. Any input would be appreciated. I posted a link a while ago about FAQ on batteries...look for it...but, in general, any good quality charger will take care of a wet cell or standard AGM - meaning DEKA or similar....some of the spiral batteries are a bit peculiar on their requirements...... From what I've seen, the Promariner which is what I have, is used on both the Oddeyssey and standard...there is a switch, if i'm not mistaken, the must be pushed if using a spiral core battery....but, that's it. Dual pro, Minnkotta, Stealth, Promariner, etc. are going to take care of most batteries...be sure to get individual charging cells for each bank so if it goes bad, you can then just move the leads in a pinch and keep charging dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blewbyu Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Got me an AC/ Delco that matches the Deka. $100.11 out the door with vet discount and core return.. One year warranty. Dealer couldn’t get the Deka soon enough. 1000 reserve amps. 885 CCA’s. Starting battery only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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