Vdubbin1967 Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just picked this boat up. Got a great deal. Very solid boat... let me know what you guys think. I'm new here... any info on this boat would be great... only issue I have it's takes very long to get on plane by myself and have to have passenger sit fwd to plane out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Now THAT is cool! If it is a '77, then it is actually a Berg boat, not a Maverick, but it is the same hull that eventually became the Maverick Master Angler. Clearly that one has been completely re-done, and I see some things that I really like - particularly the toe rails to keep fly-line on the deck and not in the water! Odd that you are having trouble getting on plane. I had an 87 MA with a very old 115 on it and it jumped up on plane pretty quickly. May be a prop issue, or you may not be getting the correct amount of power out of it due to fuel/carbon build up/ etc. Would love to hear more details on the boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vdubbin1967 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, whichwaysup said: Now THAT is cool! If it is a '77, then it is actually a Berg boat, not a Maverick, but it is the same hull that eventually became the Maverick Master Angler. Clearly that one has been completely re-done, and I see some things that I really like - particularly the toe rails to keep fly-line on the deck and not in the water! Odd that you are having trouble getting on plane. I had an 87 MA with a very old 115 on it and it jumped up on plane pretty quickly. May be a prop issue, or you may not be getting the correct amount of power out of it due to fuel/carbon build up/ etc. Would love to hear more details on the boat! Thanks for the compliment! I heard that Scott deal owned this boat and this is one that made him buy the tooling and molds to make the mavericks. It is a healthy 115 etec I just serviced... runs about 36 mph at 5500 rpm. I thought it would be faster... I'm trying to figure out what this boat is valued at... I've wanted a maverick since I was a kid. And this was within reach so I snagged it up cheap. I need to look into props but not sure where to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 I wonder what the boat weighs?????? 36 mph with a healthy 115 on an 18' flats boat sounds extremely low to this bay boater. Nice "museum" grade boat! Congratulations on the find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vdubbin1967 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, JEM said: I wonder what the boat weighs?????? 36 mph with a healthy 115 on an 18' flats boat sounds extremely low to this bay boater. Nice "museum" grade boat! Congratulations on the find. Thanks man!!! I'm not sure yet what it weighs... I put on a hydrofoil to see if it helps.. I need to try props and check the motor height. Right now the cav plate is about an inch above the bottom.. the boat is in really good shape but still need love here and there. What is one of these boats worth. I'm new to the maverick scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 I have no experience on the flats boats. Whichwaysup should be able to offer a little guidance on value as well as what that boat should top out at with a 115. I would get the make, model, and size of that prop and report back to see what the Maverick experts say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Putting a price on that is like trying to price a unicorn. It's one of a kind and has a great history. I think 90% of the price is going to be how well the rebuild was done and how well documented it is. Equipped like that, well used 10+ year old MAs get anywhere from 10-20+K. Agree with the above, if that motor is healthy, that boat should be into the low 40 MPH range easily. My 87 easily got 43/44 with that old smoker 115 I had on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 You might drop Skip on this forum a pm and see if he will ask Scott Deal about this boat. That would certainly add some interesting pedigree to this boat if you can validate that info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 12 hours ago, whichwaysup said: Putting a price on that is like trying to price a unicorn. It's one of a kind and has a great history. I think 90% of the price is going to be how well the rebuild was done and how well documented it is. Equipped like that, well used 10+ year old MAs get anywhere from 10-20+K. Agree with the above, if that motor is healthy, that boat should be into the low 40 MPH range easily. My 87 easily got 43/44 with that old smoker 115 I had on it. Depends on the prop....my MA17 1995 with a 115 and a 4 blade Power tech (as I wanted hole shot) runs right at 38 mph WOT...I'm sure with a 3 blade it would run over 40 mph. To the OP - what prop you running....size and pitch and that will help... Most likely you are over pitched...you should not have to have someone sit on the front seat to come on plane. dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplec Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Interesting find! I have no info to offer on the Berg hulls but if its anything like the MA then its pretty heavy and those numbers may be tweaked a bit but you may be disappointed in the long run without more HP. Interestingly, I just saw this Berg for sale on C list and the owner may be willing to chat a bit on his rebuild. Looks to be a year newer and different layout maybe or maybe even back then Berg had a 17 and 18.5? and yours may be the 17? Cool to see the classics still surviving. https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/d/1978-maverick-master-angler/6289727390.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vdubbin1967 Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Wanaflatsfish said: Depends on the prop....my MA17 1995 with a 115 and a 4 blade Power tech (as I wanted hole shot) runs right at 38 mph WOT...I'm sure with a 3 blade it would run over 40 mph. To the OP - what prop you running....size and pitch and that will help... Most likely you are over pitched...you should not have to have someone sit on the front seat to come on plane. dc 1 hour ago, Wanaflatsfish said: Depends on the prop....my MA17 1995 with a 115 and a 4 blade Power tech (as I wanted hole shot) runs right at 38 mph WOT...I'm sure with a 3 blade it would run over 40 mph. To the OP - what prop you running....size and pitch and that will help... Most likely you are over pitched...you should not have to have someone sit on the front seat to come on plane. dc I'm running a 13-3/8 x 17 pitch 3 blade. Thanks for any help on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vdubbin1967 Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, triplec said: Interesting find! I have no info to offer on the Berg hulls but if its anything like the MA then its pretty heavy and those numbers may be tweaked a bit but you may be disappointed in the long run without more HP. Interestingly, I just saw this Berg for sale on C list and the owner may be willing to chat a bit on his rebuild. Looks to be a year newer and different layout maybe or maybe even back then Berg had a 17 and 18.5? and yours may be the 17? Cool to see the classics still surviving. https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/d/1978-maverick-master-angler/6289727390.html Thanks for the info. My title says 18 foot 1977 maverick. I will try and reach out to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 7:17 AM, Vdubbin1967 said: I'm running a 13-3/8 x 17 pitch 3 blade. Thanks for any help on this Contact Marcus at Power Tech props in Lousiana.. Most likely you'll need a stern lifter 4 blade to get you up and running off plane faster...you'll loose probably 2-3 mph...I'd go with a smaller pitch 16... For the 115 Evenrude - it's probably on the margin for min - HP - a 150 would have running it well, but, that being said, look at 4 blades for hole shot....and go as low on the pitch as you can for intial grip and spin..... this beast will cut the chop as does my MA - howerver, it's not gona run fast with only 115.... tell him Wana sent ya dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vdubbin1967 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 So I figured out a few things with my Boat speed. I put on a hydrofoil and greatly improved in getting on plane. Also my Boat had Bennett self adjusting trim tabs and when the were pinned in full up it felt like bow was buried still. I removed the trim tabs and it get on plane a lot faster and I get about 41mph top end. Still doing lots of things to it but finished my name for side:), new fuel hoses and water separators, new fuse panel, new wiring with dual batteries, all new switch panel, all new dash I made out of black starboard , new jl audio sound system, new shadow caster 10” underwater light, new led rgb cockpit lights, had trailer rebuilt, full engine service, resealed every screw and hatch and bolt on the boat, installing a bilge blower because for some reason the bilge and under front deck area stays humid. Still little touch ups here and there but almost done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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