classic1900v Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 My 15 year old Rule- Mate 1100 gph bilge pump has finally given up. Suggestions on what to replace with? The reviews on Rule's current 1100 gph pump are awful. Thought about getting the Rule LP900, but don't know if there is room for a 9" long pump (thereabouts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdriftin Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Rule pumps don't seem to be what they once were. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and went with the rule though. It was just easier to replace and keep as close as possible since its not the easiest thing to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic1900v Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 No doubt, trying to squeeze through the pie plate opening is tough. Just thankful I have long arms or it would be impossible to reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodWorks Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 I would stick with a new Rule. I've had one of the new ones for 5 years no issues. Plus the basket on the new ones keeps the same hole pattern as the old style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin-addict Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic1900v Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Ok, I like the same hole patterns. Makes life easier. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanaflatsfish Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Ok, I like the same hole patterns. Makes life easier. Thanks guys. Buy it from WM with the extended warranty...next time it craps out...you take it in, they hand you a new one.. The key with rule is keeping them clean...i always run dawn liquid with a bit of bleach inthe bilge...then afterwards, run a garden hose in the bilge for 10 min to keep it clean. dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicecast Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Plus the basket on the new ones keeps the same hole pattern as the old style. Sure about that? I believe the automatics have a different basket. The baskets on the older, flat top oval ones sure look different than the newer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodWorks Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Plus the basket on the new ones keeps the same hole pattern as the old style. Sure about that? I believe the automatics have a different basket. The baskets on the older, flat top oval ones sure look different than the newer ones. I had the original 2003 OEM Rulematic 1100 and changed it out to the newer style. I could've never reached to drill new holes so it was a welcomed discovery at the time. It does look totally different but the hole pattern in the bottom is exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicecast Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Great - my mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rckeat Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Plus the basket on the new ones keeps the same hole pattern as the old style. Sure about that? I believe the automatics have a different basket. The baskets on the older, flat top oval ones sure look different than the newer ones. I had the original 2003 OEM Rulematic 1100 and changed it out to the newer style. I could've never reached to drill new holes so it was a welcomed discovery at the time. It does look totally different but the hole pattern in the bottom is exactly the same. That's exactly why I bought the same pump when my original failed. Even with the same hole pattern, getting all the screws in place is no easy feat. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic1900v Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Good to hear the holes are the same, there would be no way to drill new holes with all the room provided in an old 1900V. Going to pick up new pump either today or tomorrow and install tomorrow night, hopefully. I understand the new pumps have 3 wires, 1-Positive wire for switch, 1-Positive wire direct to battery, and 1-Negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoffer Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Ive replaced the original Rule with their new style pump last year. Havent had any issues, knock on wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic1900v Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Replaced pump on Saturday, all in order, except I can't find where the hot wire (automatic) is plugged in. That might be a 6 pack job on Friday. Thanks for the info/help guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdriftin Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 The hot wire may go straight to the battery or positive post if you have one. I'm guessing your have an early 2000s 1900 and it was probably rigged similarly to my old Bayfisher. The always-on hot probably goes straight to the battery and that's how you want it. Less connectors in the way of the power the better for that one in my opinion. I'd run a ring terminal straight to the battery post to make it easy (assuming your battery is in a stern rigging box). I think i have an inline fuse on mine, but could't tell you the amperage, maybe its in the instructions on the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic1900v Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 That's right, boat is a 2001 model. When the battery was in the stern rigging box, the bilge pump had a hot wire direct to the battery. I do seem to recall an inline fuse as well. I had the battery moved to the center console, and added a 2nd battery with a 1, 2, All, Off battery selector switch. Apparently the DA who did the job decided that having the hot wire going to the fuse block (or maybe its mounted on the switch studs) was the better option. I guess he didn't want the battery to drain in case the boat filled with water when no one was around........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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