billythekid Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Hey everyone I am new here and been reading through some post ,but having trouble finding anything about this year boat. it has a 110 evinrude on it that runs, can this boat handle a Suzuki df140? how does the boat handle for flats fishing? anything good or bad about them that I should look for? happy new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 There is wood in the structures of the original Berg boats. Stringers/transom. Have a competent person evaluate the strength remaining. Some were garaged, and retain strength. Some owners drilled holes and screwed stuff into the hull. That Suzuki is a heavy motor for that old hull. They were built for 2-strokes. They were among the very first 'flats boats' built. Post up some pics ! Not many of the Berg boats left ! Mod-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted January 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 alright so the deck is shot in it, the transom is gonna need a good inspection boat has a 110 evinrude on it that runs. If I put a trolling motor and the batteries in the forward compartment is that enough to offset the weight. The john motor is 310 pounds from what I can find and the Suzuki is 410. can I offset the weight, is a 140 to much power? the work isn't a problem, have built a few boats in my time the last pic is after I scrubbed this turd down a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yes.. I gotta think it will be too heavy for that hull. Will affect performance by putting more of the hull in the water. The transom was not designed or built for the weight of that 4 stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Cool boat, crazy how little they have changed. Wonder if you filled the aft hatch area with foam, would that help with the weight. Many new skiffs have sponsons like that filled, to help with balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason p Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Foam, inside the hull, will have no affect on the hull's ability to handle more weight. It will help the hull float if water gets inside the gunnels but that's it. Unless the hull's displacement is increased, wetted surface area, the weight carrying capacity will remain the same. Any weight added to the inside of the hull will decrease the load carrying capacity by the equivalent amount, whether it's buoyant material or not. Like the muscle car dudes say: "there's no replacement for displacement" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yep you are right! I just read a question from a guy wanting to add a power pole to his boat. The boat had sponsons but they were foam filled and he couldn't access the transom, guess that sent me not thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 alright so my extra Suzuki df140 is useless!! how about a Yamaha 75 four stroke? I think it weighs 300 pounds or less what other power options do you suggest for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lap it Up Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Does the OMC run? If it doesn't I would look for another one or go with a 115 or 130 yamaha 2 stroke. I have had several v4 omc's and you just can't kill them. I currently have a 1989 Omc 110 on a 15' Whaler. Boy does it scoot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't do 2 stroke power. I haven't since 2000! and I wouldn't own a Johnson or evinrude..... To answer your question the one on the boat does run, I am doing a compression test on it this week and gonna fire it up on a aux tank. anyone in the market for a 89 Johnson 110hp and controls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lap it Up Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Too bad. Best power to weight ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 also what about jack plates? have they lost some popularity since everyone is using electric trolling motors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I know of two Bergs, and both have 2-stroke Merc power. You could try the Zuke if your transom is sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polliwog Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 why not a new 115hp Yamaha which is about 350lbs. I looked into that motor and was impressed by the performance. Still check out the transom integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI Flats Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 A little late on this, but I have the same boat. I'm running a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke on my boat. Tops out just under 50 mph. Sits a little low in the stern but it isn't horrible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Cool boat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I settled on a 115 2stroke yamaha that was clean , I scooped up a console and some other odds and ends. The boat is in Stuart florida at Durite boatworks and Randy is gonna pull it apart very shortly. Does anyone know how the cap is secured to the hull? is it just tabbed down or is it bedded in some form of putty? goning back with the console in the center and trolling motor for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Wish I could help, but your boat makes mine look like a spring chicken, I would imagine that everything is different in 10 years and two manufacturers! Sure would love to see some progress pics, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplec Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 On January 4, 2016 at 6:04 PM, billythekid said: I don't do 2 stroke power. I haven't since 2000! and I wouldn't own a Johnson or evinrude..... To answer your question the one on the boat does run, I am doing a compression test on it this week and gonna fire it up on a aux tank. anyone in the market for a 89 Johnson 110hp and controls Ahhh...the smell of Yamalube in the morning! Good call on the change of heart I think. Course my 2 stroke just turned 20 so I am prejudiced a tad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason p Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 I definitely miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted November 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 ok a couple more things, I got my hands on a 24v 60" Minn Kota Ulterra trolling motor. I am working on a power pole. what size trim tabs should be put on this boat? Should I do the shark eye bow lights or the ones in the side of the console, I figure the trolling motor is going to get in the way of the bow light. Anyone know the guy that does the rope wrap on the steering wheels? I used to have the number but can not find it anymore. deck was cut out of the boat and stringers look good. in the next couple weeks the boat will be soda blasted and then dissasembled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whichwaysup Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Man, that is COOL. What's amazing is that the deck on your 78 has exactly the same hatch layout as my 1987 (mine is actually an MBC built version). It will be fun to watch this project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanjj Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Looking good ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 and away we go the boat has been stripped down, transom was rotted, floor was a disaster and the foam was its own swimming pool , needless to say we are gonna lighten things up a bit. here are some pics of them tearing it apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billythekid Posted February 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 After the boat was gutted the stringers were check for moisture and rot. surprisingly they were solid and dry. also the top cap was dry as a bone and still solid. It probably helped that there were no penetrations in the top cap at all. alright they have installed the new coosa board transom and it is concrete solid. transom was laid up with a bunch of layers of 1708 and 1.5 oz mat inbetween. after that they did the template for the floor to transfer it to the h80 Divynacell floor, the template is made out of 1/8" luan plywood ripped into 2" strips then its is shaped with a jig saw, sheetmetal shears and glued together with a hot glue gun. its then transfered to the Divynacell to make a almost perfect fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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