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  1. Egrets Landing

    Total Scan Install Question

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    GPS Screen Size

    That is probably true. But I have never had that happen to me and I'm in the boat every week. When I get back on the lift, the GPS shows me exactly on the lift to the foot and when I run through tight places, my gps shows me exactly where I am just like in the car. I run a Simrad most of the time. Its remarkably accurate. I am not concerned that all of a sudden the govt is going to alter sattelites to make the gps less accurate causing a lot of issues for people around the world. The accuracy is too important for vehicle navigation which requires very high accuracy. All of the car navigation systems let alone boaters would be a real mess if that happened. But I have seen lots of photos that people post of their gps showing them off of where they say they actually are so their unit shows them on land when they are in a creek etc and there are plenty of complaints about it. In most cases, I think it is the MAP running in the machine as opposed to the machine. My machine has been perfectly accurate for years. That said, you do need to have your WAAS turned on or it could show you up to 30' off of actual in some cases and I think there are lots of people that are running around that have no idea what WAAS is let alone have it switched on in their GPS. For whatever reason, mfgs ship the units with the WAAS defaulted to OFF. If you have not turned your WAAS on before, it's probably off and the GPS is less accurate than it could be.
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    Yeah. I get it. About 3 people every day are losing their Garmin and switching platforms just to run those charts in the video above. Obviously, in the opinion of those people, that says a lot about how inferior the Garmin controlled maps really are by comparison. There are lots of people (particularly in the NE and bluewater boaters) that just don't know because general reference charts are all they have ever seen and without first hand experience are not able to appreciate the differences. And obviously there are also some old timers that are just resistant to any change no matter what the differences may be and rarely accept change. But nevertheless, many Garmin users who like their machines are willing to spend all of that money just for the other charts and they remove their Garmin equipment to make it happen. For them, the charts are more important than the unit. I dislike the Garmin charts and find them nearly useless and even dangerous for the challenging areas I go boating around FL because of the inaccuracies and thousands of missing details. But I am just one of a very large group who feels that way. Many hundreds of Garmin users are switching every year just for that chart in the video and that says a lot about what they think about the charts they have. There will always be deniers and naysayers and people resistant to change but most of the time they only know what they know which often times is a bit lacking in some focused areas as is the case in this thread. But that is what I find nice about blogs -you can learn some new info and get alternative perspectives. Some may disagree with chart discussions and some even take offense if you think their chart is useless, but a detailed empirical examination can be made and the differences clearly demonstrated and where the differences are noteworthy, as they really are with the charts discussed above, if people are honest, all opinion is removed and the charts speak for themselves regardless of who may be offended. With respect to Garmin getting in the game as you say, it doesn't appear very likely as they do double down on the Garmin only paradigm every year continuing to relegate their customers to zero alternative chart options to Garmin.
  4. Egrets Landing

    Total Scan Install Question

    If it is installed properly, there is just a little spray and it does read at high speeds. My total scan reads depth at 40+ That said, its very sensitive to proper location on the transom and height and angle. Just a 1/4" up or down can make a difference. I found about 1/2 of the transducer face needs to be below the plane of the water at speed. More than that there is a problem. Less than that it does not read consistently.
  5. Egrets Landing

    Replacing Garmin thoughts?

    If you are going to get the EVO3 to run FMT, best to buy it from ISLA to get the 20% off the charts in addition to the mfg rebate.
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    Minn Kota or Motorguide

    The minKota units are really noisy when turning but apparently no so much underwater. But the turning noise drives me crazy. I have been on several boats with them and they are really loud. I think the noisiest of all of the options. The MG is pretty quiet by comparison and the Rhodan is super quiet when turning and I have found it to be totally reliable with no breakdowns. I have had two rhodans and they work fine and very accurate and the remote is easy and very small fitting inside the palm of your hand. I found the downside of the Rhodan is 1) the white plastic they use for the cover on the deck and on the head unit is not UV protected and will turn yellow after about a year in the elements and 2) the launching mechanism off the bow is all plastic and gets sticky and you have to spray it with silicon so it will slide off. I think the manual launching mechanism on the MK and MG is higher quality and a better design. You will have to repaint the plastic covers or buy a new ones from Rhodan for about 100 if you don't like the yellow after it starts to appear. I think I am going to switch to Motor Guide this year which integrates with my GPS.
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    Replacing Garmin thoughts?

    ISLA is not compatible with Raymarine at this time and not projected to be this year.
  8. Egrets Landing

    GPS Screen Size

    It has nothing to do with the machine. Its the chart running in it. Once they fix that problem, you will be in much better shape and a happier boater. But until then, the machine stinks (at least if you run with it for most of the Gulf coast inshore) because it's only as useful as the chart running in it. That is just the way it is. It's the Mcdonalds of charting. Low res imagery that goes fuzzy when zoomed when you need it and noaa features which are really poor inshore. In some cases, that is all there is available for the area so you just have to make due with what you have. If you want to run Plat + in that video shown above and think that is great and can get you around the everglades and crazy places like Homosassa or Steinhatchee, or Captiva, or Lower LA at sunrise be prepared for a problem for sure. But some people still do swear by it. I have questioned some about it curious about their perspective. I found they do finally have to admit, that when they need it, they aren't really using the chart itself to figure out where to run or how to get where they want but rather they run the trails they had previously laid down to follow or I find they run deep drafting boats and don't go into challenging areas so its never an issue for them.
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    GPS Screen Size

    In Florida and Louisiana >>> ISLA If you want to see how it compares to Navionics Plat+ (which is likely going to be similar to G3 since they merged the two together) and you have some time you can watch this video below. Its long but in keeping with the chart it is detailed. In about 20 places the video stops and they put on the then latest version of the premium Garmin controlled chart. Prepared to be shocked at the differences. Particularly in challenging areas like the Everglades and SW FL. There will be another video coming out shortly showing ISLA for LA vs. G3 and the other Garmin LA chart specifically.
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    GPS Screen Size

    Check out this thread: It really has little to do with the GPS itself. The machines are all about the same between the mfgs. Spend 1500 with mfg. a vs. 1500 with mfg b its not any kind of substantive difference in what they can do. The difference that matters is the charts that can run in it. The machine is only as useful as the chart running in it. The issue with the garmin is if you have that, that is all you get - a garmin controlled chart and if that doesn't work, you are out of luck. This year, more than a thousand people will leave Garmin just because they want to run the chart referenced in the thread above. That is the truth and many of those people were really pissed at themselves for not researching more or pissed at someone else who could have or should have advised better about the garmin chart issue such as their sales person, boat mfg. or whoever before they got the machine.
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    GPS Screen Size

    HoneyB.. down in FL and GA and LA, there are literally hundreds of boaters who have posted on many blogs going back for quite a few years with the same issues with their Garmin charts as you experienced showing them running on land when they are floating in a channel somewhere or running a creek, canal or the like. I don't know how many threads exactly I have seen over the years with a title that is something like "my garmin shows me on land" but its quite a few. I am glad that you at least admit it happened to you too. But why it is you would think its better to stay quiet than point out the problem proactively I don't know. If you knew and didn't tell me that is sort of lying by omission in my book. I would rather have someone tell me that could happen to me before I went and spent a bunch of money in that direction if there was a better option available that would avoid that problem.
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    GPS Screen Size

    Sounds like there are some sensitive libs in here. If you run in the ocean along the coast its not such a problem. It's deep for most areas running a few hundred yards off a beach or outside an inlet along a coast. If you are running inland through creeks and cuts, and flats and long expansive areas of shallow water with turns and obstacles such as rocks and pilings its a big problem for many areas. Perhaps your particular area is grade A. I don't know how shallow you run or exactly where you run. The OP runs FL and the chart is very poor for his area and even dangerous and the response was directed there and noted as it would relate to the Gulf Coast area for FL, LA etc. It's particularly poor around Punta Gorda and areas south where he is. Again, this is not a matter of opinion. It is what it is an can be proven with absolute definitive side by side examples all over the place. Missing bars, missing posts and local navigation features (thousands of them), missing signs, Incorrect marker and buoys, missing poll and troll areas. the list goes on and on. Some people get used to that kind of thing and that is all they know and find it acceptable. But its like running for a while a bad tires. You don't realize what it should be until you get new ones on. That said, some people just are happy running on worn out tires and do consider them well more than sufficient for their own purpose.
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    GPS Screen Size

    I have learned that some people just can't handle the truth. Sort of funny since they come to the Hull Truth to read. But in many cases, the truth is harsh. What is nice about this discussion is charts can be compared and the truth can be made totally obvious for all to see and opinion can be removed as a factor. Now if someone wants to look at chart A that shows a path that sends boats directly into a flat and finds that just as good or better than Chart B that shows the area exactly correct showing the correct path that is up to them. There are some people that do choose to ignore reality or proven facts for their own reasons. I don't quite understand that but it does happen all the time.
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    If you are running the ICW, wider deeper channels, the ocean or wide open bays like the middle of charlotte harbor, no problem. Most people who find them to be totally fine run deeper drafting rigs that run mostly in those open and deeper areas. For any other areas inshore such as the inside Rim that are less than 3' with narrow cuts, bars, obstacles and required turns and that charts are poor at best and in some areas totally wrong and dangerous. For those kinds of areas which are all over the SE in Louisiana, and Florida and other parts of the Gulf coast it is useless and they only way you can use the gps to safely navigate in poor light is to run previously run tracks that you have laid down. You can't do it on the map features themselves because in so many areas they are wrong or totally missing. its not an matter of opinion. It is what it is. A side by side comparison of those charts vs what is really there speaks for itself. There are literally thousands of missing and inaccurate placed features on those Garmin controlled charts and some will send you directly into a bar or obstacle if you follow them. I can think of a number of places off the top of my head where that is clearly the case. One near Titusville and another at Stuart. There are plenty the Ft. Myers area including some very dangerous sunk pilings and a plethora of in the Keys, Steinhatchee and LA and NE FL.
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    Where do you run your boat?
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